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Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister

Also known as: Chem Sis x Sour Dubb, Sour Dubb x Chem Sis, Cha-ching

Breeder: Joesy Whales & Lone Watty (GG Strains) — accidental crossGG Strains →

Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister was never released as a cultivar, and almost nothing is documented about the plant itself — it exists in cannabis history as the intermediate breeding step that produced GG4. It came from an accidental pollination when a Chem's Sister cut threw staminate flowers onto a Sour Dubb clone, yielding four seeds, two of which were germinated; the single keeper female was nicknamed 'Cha-ching' according to Lone Watty's 2015 Adam Dunn Show interview as documented by Get Seeds Right Here. When that plant later hermied under the stress of an emergency garden move, its pollen seeded a Chocolate Diesel clone, and those seeds became GG4 / Original Glue and Sister Glue (GG1). GG4's resin load, fuel-and-sour nose and well-known intersex sensitivity all trace back to this plant, but there is no seed line or production clone of it to grow.

Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister strain facts
TypeHybrid (Unpublished)
BreederJoesy Whales & Lone Watty (GG Strains) — accidental cross GG Strains strains →
LineageSour Dubb x Chem's SisterSour Dubb →Chem's Sister →
THCUnknown
Dominant terpenesCaryophyllene
Flower timeUnknown
Yield (indoor / outdoor)Unknown / Unknown
DifficultyDifficult
Height / stretchUnknown
Also known asChem Sis x Sour Dubb, Sour Dubb x Chem Sis, Cha-ching
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Lineage & Genetics

Cross: Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister

Because this plant only ever existed as a breeding node, its character has to be read through its two clone-only parents. Sour Dubb — also called Sour Dubble or SDubb — traces to about 2008, when B.O.G. of B.O.G. Seeds gifted four seeds of East Coast Sour Diesel x Sour Bubble to a friend at an outdoor festival in Northern California; the cultivator Greyskull germinated two, kept an exceptional female and named the cut. Sour Bubble itself is B.O.G.'s Bubble Gum inbred line. Breeder Meangene of Freeborn Selections has observed that Sour Dubb breeds more like a heavy Afghan than a Sour Diesel, with tight internodes, thick lateral branches and chunky golf-ball-to-spear flower formations, plus a faint benign leaf variegation. Its nose is deep diesel, tart sour citrus, pink bubblegum, damp earth and burnt rubber, and it is reported at 20% to 26% THC with very high gland density. Chem's Sister — Chem Sis, Chemdawg A — was selected in 1991 by Greg Krzanowski, 'Chemdog'. High Times' '25 Years of Chem Dog' and ICMag's Chem family thread describe him buying an ounce of Dogbud for $500 from P-Bud and Joe Brand at a Grateful Dead show at Deer Creek Amphitheater in Noblesville, Indiana in June 1991; later mail-ordered ounces yielded 13 bagseeds, of which he germinated four in 1991, discarding one male and labeling the three females Chem Dog (now Chem '91), Chem Dog A (which became Chem's Sister) and Chem Dog B. The underlying heritage of the Dogbud bagseed is unknown. Chem's Sister is sativa-dominant in morphology, with floppy lanky branches, wide internodes and an aggressive flowering stretch that demands staking and trellising, a nose of acrid skunk, petroleum, solvent, lemon zest, pine and sweet sandalwood, a reported 18% to 24% THC, a more cerebral and energizing effect than Chem '91 or Chem D, and the well-documented tendency to throw nanners under thermal or environmental swings that started this whole story. The full-page research estimates the cross's genetic heritage at roughly 60% indica to 40% sativa, but no ratio was ever published for the plant itself, so the field here is left unpublished. In practice, the traits the pairing was expected to carry are Sour Dubb's dense calyx clustering, sweet-sour bubblegum undertone, sticky resin heads and physical weight, alongside Chem's Sister's trichome coverage, kerosene and solvent top notes, vigorous branching, abundant bud sites and cerebral lift.

Lineage Dispute

There are three things worth separating here. First, retail and database listings routinely present GG4 / Original Glue as simply 'Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister', but primary accounts from Joesy Whales and Lone Watty, High Times and SeedFinder's genealogy for Sister Glue all describe GG4 as a three-way hybrid: (Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister) x Chocolate Diesel, with the Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister plant acting as the pollen donor onto a female Chocolate Diesel clone. Second, the two research passes disagree on where this happened: the full-page research places the events in California, with Greyskull and Zoolander handing Joesy Whales verified cuts of Sour Dubb and a cutting labeled Chem D — later identified in flower as Chem's Sister — in a commercial parking lot in Barstow in 2009, while the cross-check research says the cross was bred unintentionally in Nevada. The records also differ on Lone Watty's given name, rendered as Russ Johnson in one pass and Russ or Ross Johnson in the other. Third, nothing sold under a similar name is this cross: Zoolander Seeds' 'Sour Dubb x Sis Lights' uses a male of Chem Sister x (Northern Lights #1 x Northern Lights #5) rather than the Chem's Sister cut itself, and GG4 S1 lines such as CSI Humboldt's are selfed generations of the finished three-way clone, not two-way crosses of Sour Dubb and Chem's Sister.

Terpene Profile

DOMINANT

Caryophyllene — No certificate of analysis or lab panel exists for this plant, because no finished flower of it was ever sold. Caryophyllene is listed as dominant by inference from tested profiles of Sour Dubb, Chem's Sister and their direct progeny GG4 / Original Glue, where it typically runs 0.6% to 1.2%. It carries spicy cracked pepper, warm diesel and earthy fuel, and is the terpene behind the anti-inflammatory reputation of this family through CB2 receptor activity. Treat the figure as parent-derived and unverified.

SECONDARY

Myrcene — Reconstructed from progeny panels at roughly 0.4% to 0.8% and unverified for this plant. Provides the earthy, musky, herbal base inherited from the Sour Bubble and Chemdog sides, and is associated with physical relaxation.

SECONDARY

Limonene — Estimated at 0.3% to 0.6% in direct offspring, not measured here. Brings bright sour citrus and sharp chemical rind with a mood-elevating lift, and is the terpene most expressive in Chem's Sister.

SECONDARY

Humulene — Estimated at 0.2% to 0.4% in direct offspring, not measured here. Adds woody, hoppy, dry herbal complexity that reinforces the peppery bite of caryophyllene.

SECONDARY

Pinene — Alpha- and beta-pinene together are estimated at 0.1% to 0.3% in direct offspring, not measured here. They deliver fresh pine needle and resinous evergreen aromatics that are characteristic of the Chem's Sister side.

SECONDARY

Ocimene — Trace level, up to about 0.15% in direct offspring, and unverified for this plant. Contributes the subtle sweet floral and fruity note that traces back to the BOGBubble ancestry inside Sour Dubb.

SECONDARY

Valencene — Grouped with ocimene at trace levels up to about 0.15% in progeny panels, and never measured on this plant. Reads as a light sweet citrus undertone underneath the fuel.

Aroma: No one ever described the smell of a cured, standalone Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister, so the profile below is reconstructed from the two parent cuts and the progeny. On the whole bud it is loud and penetrating: pungent industrial diesel, sour citrus fuel and acrid skunky solvent, with a sweet tart bubblegum note underneath from the Sour Bubble ancestry. Ground or broken open, the dense resin heads rupture into sharp kerosene, lemon-lime cleaner, damp pine needles and peppery chemical funk.

Flavor: Also parent-derived rather than tasted and recorded. The inhale is thick and rich with intense fuel-and-sour astringency, coating the palate with sour diesel and sharp chemical zest. The exhale settles into lingering earthy pine and pungent skunk, closing on a sweet-sour candy and bubblegum aftertaste that softens the chem bite.

Effects & Experience

Onset: Described as very fast — within roughly 60 to 180 seconds — but this is inferred from the parents and progeny, not from reports on this plant

There are no first-hand effect reports for this plant, because it never left the breeders' gardens. Reading forward from its parents and its children, the Chem's Sister side would open with cerebral stimulation, tingling ocular pressure, sensory clarity and an immediate mood lift, while the Sour Dubb side — which breeds more Afghan than Sour Diesel — would arrive 20 to 45 minutes in as deep physical ease through the shoulders, neck and spine. The commonly reported downsides of this family apply: dry mouth, dry red eyes, and dizziness or anxiety in low-tolerance users at high doses of Chem-family flower.

Duration: Long, reported at roughly 2.5 to 3.5 hours for this family rather than measured on this plant

Commonly Reported Uses

Chronic painMuscle spasmsArthritisStress reliefInsomnia

Grower's Notes

Flower
Unknown
Indoor Yield
Unknown
Outdoor Yield
Unknown
Difficulty
Difficult
Height / Stretch
Unknown
Environment
Indoor stadium garden (original)

Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister was never released or stabilized and no longer exists. It was one keeper female, nicknamed Cha-ching by Joesy Whales and Lone Watty, grown as breeding stock and discarded after it seeded the room, so there is no grow log, yield figure or lab panel for it. What is documented is how it was kept, how it failed, and what its parents and offspring show.

Growth Structure and Training

SeedFinder's Chem Sister entry describes floppy, lanky branches, wide internodes and an aggressive flowering stretch that demands staking and trellising. Sour Dubb pulls the other way; Meangene of Freeborn Selections observes it breeds more like a heavy Afghan than a Sour Diesel, with tight internodes and thick lateral branches.

Flowering Time and Harvest

Flower time is Unknown; the plant threw pollen and seeded the room before anyone recorded a finish window. The parent cuts bracket it, with Sour Dubb finishing in 56 to 63 days and Chem's Sister in roughly 63 to 70 days.

Nutrient Management

The one feeding trait the record ties to a parent is Sour Dubb's sensitivity to nitrogen through the bloom transition, where excess nitrogen shows as leaf clawing, chlorophyll retention and delayed ripening. Any EC, pH or cal-mag target published under this cross's name is unsourced.

Growing Media

The documented detail is container size. Alchimiaweb places the plant in one-gallon pots in a stadium-style garden of roughly 80 plants, a root volume that left little buffer when the garden was torn down and moved.

Environment and Climate

No temperature, humidity or light figures were recorded; what is documented is the failure mode. Per Alchimiaweb and High Times, a police presence nearby forced Joesy Whales to dismantle the garden overnight and hide it at a friend's house, and moving the canopy twice in a short span put thermal, mechanical and light stress on it. Heat, light leaks and root disruption are the named triggers.

Pest and Disease Resistance

The defining weakness is stress-induced hermaphroditism, documented twice in this plant's own history. The cross exists because the Chem's Sister cut threw staminate flowers onto a Sour Dubb clone, a tendency SeedFinder and ICMag's Chem family thread both attribute to Chem's Sister under thermal swings. The plant then repeated that behavior, throwing nanners across the stadium and seeding an adjacent Chocolate Diesel clone, which is why difficulty is listed as Difficult. Powdery mildew resistance is described as moderate at best on the Chem side.

Bud Structure and Trichomes

Meangene describes Sour Dubb's flowers as chunky golf-ball to spear formations with high gland density, and Chem's Sister contributes trichome coverage and abundant bud sites. High Times' profile of GG4 notes trichome density heavy enough to glue trimming scissors shut.

Color Development

Neither parent expresses anthocyanin and no purple phenotype is documented in this line, so lime to forest green flowers with brassy orange pistils are what the family gives. Meangene documents a faint, benign leaf variegation in the Sour Dubb cut.

Wash and Extraction

Both parent cuts are regarded as hash plants whose brittle, high-density gland heads release cleanly in ice water, and the offspring bore that out, with GG4's resin load behind its 1st Place Hybrid finish at the 2014 High Times Los Angeles Cannabis Cup.

History & Origin

The chain of events is documented mainly by Alchimiaweb's biographical retrospective on Joesy Whales, High Times' GG4 strain profile and SeedFinder's Original Glue entry, which quotes Joesy Whales directly. In 2009, Joesy Whales — Don Peabody, an ex-crane operator who had returned to cultivation after two decades and joined the ICMag forums as 'Grizz' — obtained the genetics that started it. Per Alchimiaweb, forum veterans Greyskull and Zoolander agreed to share cuts and met him in a commercial parking lot in Barstow, California, handing over a verified Sour Dubb, the 2008 B.O.G. seedling selection, plus a cutting labeled Chem D that flowered out and was identified as Chem's Sister. He also acquired a Chocolate Diesel cut, Sour Diesel x Chocolate Trip, bred by Dutch Flowers. The cross-check research instead places the breeding in Nevada, which is unresolved. Running Sour Dubb and Chem's Sister side by side, the Chem's Sister cut threw late-flower staminate flowers and pollinated the Sour Dubb clone, producing just four seeds. Joesy and Lone Watty germinated two and kept one standout female, which Lone Watty said in a 2015 Adam Dunn Show interview they nicknamed 'Cha-ching'. That plant was then grown alongside Chocolate Diesel, Sour Dubb and Chem's Sister in a one-gallon stadium garden. An unexpected police presence in the neighborhood forced Joesy to tear the 80-plant garden down overnight and hide it at a friend's house; moving the canopy twice in a short span put enough thermal, mechanical and light stress on it that the Cha-ching plants hermied aggressively on return, throwing pollen across the stadium and heavily seeding the adjacent female Chocolate Diesel. Frustrated by a fully seeded crop, Joesy discarded the plants and gave the seeded flower away — but his cultivation partner Marlin, 'Mardogg', recognized the parentage and saved the seeds from the pollinated Chocolate Diesel. Roughly a year and a half later the two popped five or six of them. Phenotype #1 became Sister Glue, GG1, an indica-dominant pine-heavy keeper held by GG Strains. Phenotype #2 was gifted to a grower in Michigan and lost. A low-yielding runt resembling Sour Dubb was discarded. Phenotype #4 was Gorilla Glue #4, Original Glue, whose trichome density famously glued trimming scissors shut. The intermediate plant itself was never stabilized, named commercially or distributed, and it won nothing; its offspring did, with GG4 taking 1st Place Hybrid at the 2014 High Times Los Angeles Cannabis Cup, 1st Place at the 2014 High Times Michigan Cannabis Cup and 1st Place at the 2015 High Times Jamaican World Cup.

Notable Crosses

Strains bred using Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister as a parent:

GG4 / Original Glue— Chocolate Diesel x (Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister)
Sister Glue / GG1— Chocolate Diesel x (Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister)
Gorilla Glue #2 / GG2— Chocolate Diesel x (Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister)

Frequently Asked Questions

6 common questions about Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister

What is Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister and what are its genetics?

Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister is a hybrid cannabis strain bred by Joesy Whales & Lone Watty (GG Strains) — accidental cross. It is a cross of Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister. Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister was never released as a cultivar, and almost nothing is documented about the plant itself — it exists in cannabis history as the intermediate breeding step that produced GG4. It came from an accidental pollination when a Chem's Sister cut threw staminate flowers onto a Sour Dubb clone, yielding four seeds, two of which were germinated; the single keeper female was nicknamed 'Cha-ching' according to Lone Watty's 2015 Adam Dunn Show interview as documented by Get Seeds Right Here.

What does Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister smell and taste like?

Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister's dominant terpenes are Caryophyllene. The aroma is described as no one ever described the smell of a cured, standalone sour dubb x chem's sister, so the profile below is reconstructed from the two parent cuts and the progeny. on the whole bud it is loud and penetrating: pungent industrial diesel, sour citrus fuel and acrid skunky solvent, with a sweet tart bubblegum note underneath from the sour bubble ancestry. ground or broken open, the dense resin heads rupture into sharp kerosene, lemon-lime cleaner, damp pine needles and peppery chemical funk.. The flavor profile features also parent-derived rather than tasted and recorded. the inhale is thick and rich with intense fuel-and-sour astringency, coating the palate with sour diesel and sharp chemical zest. the exhale settles into lingering earthy pine and pungent skunk, closing on a sweet-sour candy and bubblegum aftertaste that softens the chem bite..

What are the effects of Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister?

Described as very fast — within roughly 60 to 180 seconds — but this is inferred from the parents and progeny, not from reports on this plant There are no first-hand effect reports for this plant, because it never left the breeders' gardens. Reading forward from its parents and its children, the Chem's Sister side would open with cerebral stimulation, tingling ocular pressure, sensory clarity and an immediate mood lift, while the Sour Dubb side — which breeds more Afghan than Sour Diesel — would arrive 20 to 45 minutes in as deep physical ease through the shoulders, neck and spine. Duration is typically long, reported at roughly 2.5 to 3.5 hours for this family rather than measured on this plant. Commonly reported uses include Chronic pain, Muscle spasms, Arthritis, Stress relief.

How hard is Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister to grow?

Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister is rated difficult difficulty. It flowers in unknown, reaches unknown in height, and yields unknown indoors. Best suited for indoor stadium garden (original) environments.

What are the parent strains of Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister?

Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister is a cross of Sour Dubb and Chem's Sister. Because this plant only ever existed as a breeding node, its character has to be read through its two clone-only parents. Sour Dubb — also called Sour Dubble or SDubb — traces to about 2008, when B.O.G.

What strains were bred from Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister?

Sour Dubb x Chem's Sister has been used as a parent in several notable crosses, including GG4 / Original Glue, Sister Glue / GG1, Gorilla Glue #2 / GG2. Its genetics contribute to a wide range of modern cultivars.

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